Pandemic-response expert Dr. MJC is back for our 15th (!) installment in the Pivoting Around a Pandemic series. In this āpandepicā two-hour round, we riff on: what weāve been up to this summer, the five gnarly viruses weāre experiencing (COVID being only one), the horseshoe theory of political ideologies, discourse and censorship, tyranny and the fall of empires, vaccine trials, vitamin D, second-hand social media, and more.
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Background on the Pivoting Around a Pandemic Podcast Series
Background from our kick-off to this Pivoting Around A Pandemic series: With so much happening daily in the world and global economy around coronavirus, weāre all dealing with massive amounts of uncertainty, pivots at work, and for manyāfear and anxiety that comes with not only the health concerns, but questions around how to maintain our livelihoods moving forward.
When Momentum member and pandemic expert Dr. Michael J. Consuelos reached out to offer himself as a resource to the JBE team and the MoMo community, I jumped at the chance to record a conversation for all of you as well, which has now turned into a full-blown series. Watch recent Pivot workshops and check out all the recent episodes at PivotMethod.com/pandemic Ā»
More about Dr. Michael J. Consuelos
Dr. Michael J. Consuelos is the Principal at MJC Solutions, a veteran-owned, small business that provides professional consulting and advisory services to organizations serving the healthcare sector. He has held several leadership roles in emergency preparedness and pandemic response since 1997.
His extensive experience includes leading a health system pandemic response to the 2009 H1N1 Pandemic. Dr. Consuelosā coordination of the health system response with local, state, and federal authorities to maintain healthcare business continuity has been used as a model by other hospital systems.
Dr. Consuelos received his undergraduate degree from Princeton University and his medical degree from the University of Pennsylvania. He completed his pediatric training at Childrenās Hospital of Philadelphia and the Walter Reed Army Medical Center. He received his Executive MBA from the Pennsylvania State University Smeal College of Business and is a Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics.
Topics Covered
What we've been up to this summer
21:20 - Business ups and downs this year, coming out the other side
25:00 - At least 5 gnarly viruses of 2020:
26:51 - Physical - Actual COVID
27:15 - Psychological - Fear of COVID
27:56 - Social: fear of each other (fake news, cancel culture, protests)
28:39 - Economic - everything shut-down
29:16 - Political - fear-mongering, divisiveness, politicking pre-election, lying/scheming, gaslighting of broader Americans in service of winning at all costs, news smoke-and-mirrors and decoys to divert attention
32:19 - On Tyranny by Tim Snyder, the Fall of Empires, and hubris
42:52 - Horseshoe theory of far-left, centrist, far-right
44:13 - On Joe Rogan and the campaign from Spotify staffers to implement editorial involvement
1:00:35 - Censorship and cancel culture
1:09:54 - Vaccines: is it possible? Would you sign up for a trial? Would you get it in the first wave? Do you trust pharmaceutical companies?
1:34:06 - Vitamin D's role in our immunity
1:44:11 - Questioning how we work as it relates to our health
1:45:44 - Considering the downstream effects of so much accelerated technological advancement
1:47:34 - Surge capacity depletion
1:51:27 - Second-hand social media
1:52:10 - Cut out anything extraneous: do you miss it?
1:54:10 - Topic teasers for next time: travel, going to the movies, schools
Resources Mentioned
Michael on the web: MJC Solutions, Twitter: @MJConsuelos, Facebook: MJC Solutions
Podcasts:
Joe Rogan Experience #1116 with Steven Tyler
Sam Harris with John McWhorter: #217 ā The New Religion of Anti-Racism
Articles:
Elemental on Medium: Your Surge Capacity is Depleted
Horseshoe Theory on Wikipedia
Digital Music News: Spotify Employees Demanding Editorial Oversight Over Joe Rogan
Joe Rogan Is the New Mainstream Media: āTalking to the podcasting king about his monster Spotify Dealā by Bari Weiss
IPSOS: Majority of Americans expect not to pay for COVID-19 Vaccine
Yale Medicine: Vitamin D Myths 'D'-Bunked
Books:
On Tyranny by Tim Snyder
Beyond the Messy Truth by Van Jones
The Practice: Start Shipping Creative Work by Seth Godin
The Four Tendencies by Gretchen Rubin + Four Tendencies Quiz
No Filter: The Inside Story of Instagram by Sarah Frier
Pivot Programs:
Pivot Insider: Monthly Q&A with Jenny
Jennyās Private Momentum Community for heart-based small business owners
JB Books:
Related Pivot Podcasts:
224: Riffing on Rogan (Part 1)
167: Penney Peirce on How Coronavirus is Speeding Us Toward Transparency
245: Radical Reimagining (and Recovery)āEverything is Up For Grabs
236: We're All In This TogetherāFrom Blame to Belonging with Mike Robbins
235: Co-Journeying and Re-OpeningāRoundtable with Dr. Harris and Dr. MJC
124: Penney & Jenny Show ā Embracing Liminal Space (the In-Between)
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